{"id":279,"date":"2009-06-06T17:15:00","date_gmt":"2009-06-06T21:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/?p=279"},"modified":"2024-02-26T15:51:27","modified_gmt":"2024-02-26T20:51:27","slug":"consider-the-following","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/2009\/06\/06\/consider-the-following\/","title":{"rendered":"Considerati Urmatoarele"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Author: Hope &#8211; Speranta<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">June 6, 2009<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">o traducere neoficiala in romaneste a unor fragmente alese<br><br>\nVa cer sa considerati aceste 4 intrebari: 1) <em>cine<\/em> suntem noi? 2) <em>ce<\/em> ni se cere sa respingem? 3) <em>ce<\/em> ni se cere sa acceptam? 4) <em>de ce<\/em> suntem pusi in situatia de a considera sa lasam in urma ROEA, OCA si sa formam o Mitropolie Ortodoxa Romana a Americii (ROMA) sub Biserica Romana (BOR)?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Intai, sa trecem in vedere faptele istorice.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1. <strong>Episcopia noastra <em><u>Romana are 80 de ani<\/u><\/em>(1929-2009).<\/strong><br><strong>2. <em><u>Pentru mai mult de 20 de ani (25%)<\/u><\/em> Episcopia a fost <em><u>Romana .<\/u><\/em> (BOR) <\/strong>...<strong> (1929-1951).<\/strong><br><strong>3. <em><u>Pentru aproape 60 de ani (75%)<\/u> <\/em>Episcopia Romana exista <em><u>separat de<\/u><\/em><u>,<\/u> si nu sub, BOR<\/strong> ... <strong>(1951-2009).<\/strong><br><strong>4. <em><u>Pentru mai mult de 50 de ani (62%)<\/u> <\/em>ROEA a avut <em><u>protectie canonica<\/u><\/em> <\/strong>...<strong> care nu venea de la BOR (anii \u201850 - 2009).<\/strong><br><strong>5. <em><u>De aproape 40 de ani, (50%) ROEA este in Biserica Ortodoxa Americana (OCA)<\/u><\/em><\/strong>... <strong>(1970-2009)<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em><u>1) Cine suntem noi?<\/u><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1. <strong>Noi suntem <em><u>crestini ortodocsi de origini diverse<\/u><\/em><\/strong>...<br><strong>2. Noi suntem<em><u> din America de Nord; cetateni ai Statelor Unite si Canada.<\/u><\/em><\/strong><br><strong>3. Noi suntem <em><u>membri unei Biserici Ortodoxe Crestine Autocefale<\/u><\/em><\/strong>...<br><strong>4.  Noi suntem <em><u>o Biserica multiculturala si diversa<\/u><\/em><\/strong> ...<br><strong>5. Noi suntem <em><u>liberi de orice control si influenta guvernamentala, straina sau interna<\/u><\/em><\/strong><em><u>,<\/u><\/em> ...<br><strong>6. Noi suntem <em><u>o Biserica ortodoxa,  veche de 80 de ani<\/u><\/em><\/strong> ... <strong>facuta din crestini ortodocsi din Statele Unite si Canada, majoritatea fiind de origine romana.<\/strong> \u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em><u>2) Ce ni se cere sa respingem?<\/u><\/em><\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1. <strong>Sa respingem <em><u>identitatea noastra,<\/u><\/em><\/strong>\u00a0<br>2. <strong>Sa respingem o <em><u>\u00a0<\/u><\/em><u> <em>ecleziologie ortodoxa crestina care este locala <\/em><\/u>that is local<\/strong>\u00a0<br>3. <strong>Ni se cere <em><u>sa desfacem structura bisericii noastre de buna voie<\/u><\/em><\/strong> ...<br>4. <strong>Ni se cere sa<em><u> sfarsim viata noastra intr-o Biserica libera, independenta si locala<\/u> <\/em>...<\/strong>\u00a0<br>5. <strong>Ni se cere sa parasim <em><u>afilierea noastra cu fratii si surorile noastre din Biserica Autocefala OCA<\/u><\/em><\/strong> ...<br>6. <strong>Ni se cere sa sfarsim <em><u>existenta noastra<\/u><\/em><\/strong><em><u>,<\/u><\/em> ... <strong>cu <em><u>cu o istorie bisericeasca de 80 de ani cu traditii si obiceiuri<\/u><\/em> <\/strong>...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em><u>3) Ce ni se cere sa acceptam cu acesta Propunere?<\/u><\/em><\/strong><strong><em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>1. Sa acceptam <em><u>un model depasit si incomplect de eclesiologie <\/u><\/em>ecclesiology<\/strong> ... <strong>un etnocentrism global<\/strong>.<br><strong>2. Sa acceptam o Propunere modificata <em><u>care ofera mai putin decat ceea ce avem d\u00e9j\u00e0 (autocefalie: libertate administrative si independenta)<\/u><\/em><\/strong> ...<br><strong>3. Sa devenim <em><u>... <\/u><\/em>. <em><u>o Biserica dependenta sub BOR<\/u><\/em><u> Romana .<\/u><\/strong> ... <strong><u>...<\/u><\/strong> .<br><strong>4. Sa alegem <em><u>remove ourselves from the<\/u><\/em><\/strong>si sa votam plecarea din OCA.<em><u> <strong>...<br><\/strong><\/u><\/em><strong>5. Daca acceptam aceasta Propunere vom:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong><em><u>intra intr-o Biserica Romana<\/u><\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong>sub controlul statului Roman<\/strong> ...<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong><em><u>fi modelati dupa o gandire, politica, obiceiuri, structura si directive [straine]<\/u><\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong>...<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong><em><u>fi modelati dupa un ethos cultural strain, o viziune a lumii si o identitate [straina]<\/u><\/em><\/strong> ...<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em><u>4) De ce consideram o astfel de Propunere?<\/u><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><br>In mijlocul acestei uragan de idei si confuzie ne intrebam daca nu am \u201cuitat\u201d cine suntem noi?  Oare, am pierdut identitatea noastra de ortodocsi crestini de origine romana de 80 de ani in ROEA, in OCA?<br><br>\nNoi avem o identitate.  Noi avem o pregatire spirituala.  Avem o fata si un trup colectiv.  Noi suntem \u201cortodocsi crestini\u201d din \u201cAmerica de Nord\u201d, cetateni \u201cAmericani si Canadieni\u201d, \u201cAutocefali\u201d cu un trecut bogat in diversitate, unde mai multi suntem de origine Romana, in Episcopia Ortodoxa Romana Americana, in Biserica Ortodoxa Americana.<\/strong><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Author: Hope &#8211; Speranta June 6, 2009 I ask you to consider the following four questions: 1) who are we, 2) what are we being asked to reject, 3) what are we being asked to accept and 4) why are we being called to consider leaving the ROEA, OCA behind and form the Romanian Orthodox [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":241120734,"featured_media":284,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_wpcom_ai_launchpad_first_post":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"{title}\n\n{excerpt}\n\n{url}","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpas_customize_per_network":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[3205],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-279","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-english"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/roeanews.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/jun-6-2009.jpg?fit=128%2C100&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pfcdbO-4v","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/279","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/241120734"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=279"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/279\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1320,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/279\/revisions\/1320"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/284"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=279"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=279"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=279"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}