{"id":170,"date":"2008-12-19T15:37:00","date_gmt":"2008-12-19T20:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/?p=170"},"modified":"2024-02-26T15:57:23","modified_gmt":"2024-02-26T20:57:23","slug":"educational-forum-on-unity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roeanews.info\/ro\/2008\/12\/19\/educational-forum-on-unity\/","title":{"rendered":"EDUCATIONAL FORUM ON UNITY"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Author: Participant<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">December 19, 2008<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>&#8211; Orthodox Brotherhood Conference 2008<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The highlight of this year\u2019s Orthodox Brotherhood Conference (October 17-18, 2008) was the afternoon Educational Forum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Its unity theme explored the Romanian Orthodox Episcopate of America (ROEA) Joint Dialogue Commission\u2019s (JDC) Joint Unity Proposal from a historical, constitutional and practical perspective.This was the first time the Orthodox Brotherhood Auxiliary offered an educational component to its Conference.\u00a0 It was also the first public educational forum in the Episcopate on the JDC\u2019s unity proposal to objectively look at the Proposal\u2019s strengths and weaknesses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Joint Proposal unites the ROEA and the Romanian Orthodox Archdiocese of America (ROAA) by leaving our 50 year relationship with the autocephalous (self-governing) Orthodox Church in America (OCA), and merges the two Romanian bodies into a new autonomous body, the Romanian Orthodox Metropolia of America (ROMA) \u201cunder\/with\u201d the Patriarchate of Romania (BOR).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mr. Dan Miclau, Brotherhood Auxiliary President, served as the Forum moderator. The three speakers included: V. Rev. Fr. Dimitrie Vincent, Brotherhood Spiritual Advisor; and Rev. Fr. Anton Frunza, Solia Editor of the Romanian section; and Archdeacon David Oancea, Chancellor of the Diocese.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Program presenters each followed a different format: a Workshop, a Power Point presentation, and\u00a0 Observations, which was followed by a period of question and answers.\u00a0 The Program was very well received by everyone in attendance.\u00a0 Fathers Remus Grama and Ian Pac-Urar, members of both the Brotherhood and JDC, participated and spoke to many points, and answered questions during the presentations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Presentation #1: An Examination of ROEA Documents on Unity<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The first presentation had the participants divide up into smaller groups examining the history of ROEA Unity efforts and JDC talks, answering specific questions and sharing their findings with the Conference body.\u00a0 A workbook containing the External Relations Reports of the past 25 years (1984-2008) and the JDC Congress reports of the last 17 years (1992-2008) was passed out along with a worksheet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The worksheet covered a range of information from the reports that included: the Romanian Patriarchate\u2019s\u00a0last unsuccessful attempt to convince Archbishop Valerian and the ROEA, using their standard line, to unite the two Romanian canonical bodies under the Church in Romania (1984); BOR recognizing the OCA and canonicity of the ROEA hierarchs (1991-92); the JDC is responsible to Bishop Nathaniel (1996); a simple return to the Romanian Patriarchate is unacceptable as reintegration should be with full autonomy and structural integrity (2002); ROEA to pursue direct talks with the \u201cMother Church\u201d for reconciliation by means of a mutual agreement which would include the historical rehabilitation of Bishop Policarp and Archbishop Valerian (2007); and Archbishop Nathaniel and the JDC went to Bucharest in February of this year to discuss reconciliation over historical issues where His Beatitude Daniel proposed a mode for the unity of all Romanians in American called \u201cmaximal autonomy\u201d (2008).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The goals of this educational exercise were to familiarize Conference participants with the ROEA documents, our external relations history, and the work of the JDC while taking into account new developments since the 2008 Congress; looking at progress, setbacks, consistencies and inconsistencies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One striking fact that was clear to all is the JDC recently took a position contrary to the Episcopate\u2019s historical policy and current position of 60 years.\u00a0 Their Congress Report of 2007 states: \u201cThese talks do not imply any change in the jurisdictional or administrative position of the ROEA\u201d.\u00a0 Since that time, the Commission took it upon itself, without knowledge, support or approval of the Episcopate Council, the Church Congress or Episcopate membership, to which it is responsible and represents, to break with ROEA policy and the current status of canonical unity with the OCA.\u00a0 Instead, the JDC co-authored, with their ROAA counterparts, the Joint Unity Proposal to establish ROMA under the canonical jurisdiction of BOR.\u00a0 This fact was eventually acknowledged by Fr. Ian Pac-Urar.\u00a0 However, \u201cwhy\u201d this happened was not explored, nor were the legalities of this move discussed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Presentation #2:\u00a0 Statute Revisions in the Church of Romania\u2019s Constitution<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second speaker, Fr. Anton Frunza, presented the Church of Romania\u2019s Constitutional revisions of November 26, 2007 and their implications for us.\u00a0 His in-depth power point presentation was packed full of information.\u00a0 He showed changes in the Romanian Orthodox Church Statutes and how it could undermine the Joint Proposal in various ways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fr. Anton informed the Conference audience that he spoke with Archbishop Nathaniel, Fr. Lazar and Fr. Pac Urar, and none of them were aware of the constitutional revisions while in Romania (February 2008), when they created their document (April 2008) or at this year\u2019s Congress where the Joint Proposal, presented for ratification, was not accepted. Father reported that the JDC does not feel these constitutional revisions compromise the ROEA\u2019s position and are not a reason to suspend ongoing talks, although he disagrees.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The presentation pointed out flaws, inconsistencies and contradictions in the work of the JDC over historical, canonical and constitutional aspects of unity.\u00a0 These include the JDC\u2019s bias practice of wearing too many hats: being policymakers, ambassadors, presenters and educators. Their unwillingness to fully disclose crucial information on many occasions, the presentation of incomplete information, and the lack of thorough research that missed vital information, led to a decision taken by the Episcopate Council and Church Congress this past year which may have been quite different if things had been more transparent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fr. Frunza then made the following observations: 1) unity, as proposed, is rushed; 2) transparency is lacking; 3) we are presented select information on a need-to-know basis; 4) there is no serious attempt to inform and educate the clergy and laity; and, 5) there has been no real debate or dialogue within the Episcopate until now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fr. Frunza highlighted his observations by noting that when questions were asked at the Clergy Meeting or Congress, people were not given balanced pro\/con answers.\u00a0 The JDC, who chaired the meetings, responded in favor of their own proposal, even though it was constructed without full knowledge and information of the Church of Romania\u2019s constitutional reforms, without the consultation and insight of a canon lawyer or the ROEA\u2019s legal advisors\u2019 examination of Michigan law on merger for non-profits. Furthermore, two individuals were unfairly slandered on the internet: Mr. Alex Popescu for his letter, and Fr. Dimitrie Vincent for the \u201cBulletin on Unity.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fr. Frunza shared his own experience and observations as a Romanian and Orthodox Christian growing up in communist Romania with the broken reality of the Orthodox Church and the culture of corruption throughout society.\u00a0 He stated that the Church of Romania tends to see all Romanian Orthodox worldwide as their spiritual children, and the Romanian State sees those outside of Romania as citizens. Both attitudes disregard the fact that Romanian Orthodox who become citizens of the United States choose to leave and be part of a new culture and Church (ROEA, OCA), even though they continue to love their native country of Romania and Romanian heritage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fr. Frunza concluded by saying: \u201cI did not come to the USA to help the Romanian State or the Romanian Church and have them follow me and consider me their subject.\u00a0 Nor did I come to be silenced through threats.\u00a0 I believe the members of the Episcopate need to know and be informed about the whole process [of unity].\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Presentation # 3: Observations and Comments<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He said the JDC members have had a long experience in this dialogue process while the experience of the rest of us has been limited to this year\u2019s Congress.\u00a0 Thus, the Joint Proposal came as a shock to many who believe unity is desirable so long as we don\u2019t have to change our canonical identity.\u00a0 He pointed out that the lack of transparency has caused the unity process, for many,\u00a0to appear rushed and forced; if things are still so delicate that all issues cannot be put openly on the table, then perhaps we are not ready for the proposed unity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Furthermore, the Archdeacon believes that we need to seek the opinion of the people and parishes. He said: \u201cUnlike the Church of Romania, our Church depends on the laity and the clergy together [for financial support and administration]\u2026 I would hope that as this process continues, the laity would take their rightful place, step up to the plate, take responsibility, show up at meetings, be present at the Congress and really take the time, like you did today, to learn what this is all about and respect both sides of the issue.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Speaking of the Brotherhood publication, \u201cBulletin on Unity\u201d, Archdeacon David stated, \u201cI really don\u2019t believe they have tried to sow seeds of disunity or to attack anyone or cause problems or separations in the Diocese.\u00a0 It is really an honest attempt to express the fact that we\u2019re the Church too, and we need to talk about this.\u00a0 We need answers, and we support the Church.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Archdeacon David spoke with sensitivity and compassion, weighing and balancing the various ideas and views.\u00a0 He cautioned about internal disunity as we pursue unity with the ROAA: \u201cWe do not want to create enemies in our own household.\u00a0 Our first concern is to maintain unity within our own Episcopate, then seek unity with the Archdiocese\u2026 [taking] the proper time and give the consideration it needs.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The new Conference format of including an educational component was so successful, that plans for a 2nd Annual Orthodox Brotherhood Education Forum\u201d next October during the Orthodox Brotherhood Conference at Holy Cross Church in Heritage, Pennsylvania, is being considered.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Author: Participant December 19, 2008 &#8211; Orthodox Brotherhood Conference 2008 The highlight of this year\u2019s Orthodox Brotherhood Conference (October 17-18, 2008) was the afternoon Educational Forum. 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