Author: Archbishop (Arhiepiscopul) Nathaniel<\/p>\n\n\n\n
November 10, 2008<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Archbishop Nathaniel\u2019s Response to OCA Council Questions, Nov. 10, 2008<\/strong>unofficial transcription in English from the recording found at http:\/\/www.oca.org<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Your Eminence Archbishop Dimitri, Your Eminences, Your Graces, Rev. Fathers, Chairs, and Delegates…<\/p>\n\n\n\n I will address you on the one that I alone am capable of [answering], which is the clarification about the Romanian Diocese, which is on page 2 of this [document], at least as we\u2019ve received it.\u00a0 As you all know, the Romanian Episcopate came into the Orthodox Church in America in 1960 and for those 10 years, [our] Bishop Valerian was, I think, the only non-Russian Bishop on the Holy Synod until 1970.\u00a0 When the Autocephaly was proclaimed, our Episcopate again re-affirmed that it wanted to be part of the Orthodox Church in America.\u00a0 So, from 1970 until 1990 we have [another] 20 years, and during those years the Episcopate was also under siege from abroad, as was the Russian Metropolia Greek Catholic Church, by those Communist agents of destruction in Russia and those who tried to in some way influence or control the Church in North America.\u00a0 The Romanian Episcopate had [endured] the same thing and our Archpastor of beloved memory Archbishop Valerian suffered greatly for his constant efforts to keep the Church, the Romanian Church, the Romanian Episcopate in North America, a free Church, from out of the hands of Godless agents.\u00a0 Archbishop Valerian retired in 1984, I was [previously] elected in 1980 as auxiliary Bishop, and then in 1984\u00a0 I was nominated by the Episcopate Congress and then by the Holy Synod to be the titular Bishop, the ruling Bishop of the Episcopate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n So from 1984 until 1990, those 6 years, were years in which we continued to be aware of the pressures from abroad, but they weren\u2019t quite as before, perhaps because I was an American and maybe it wasn\u2019t so easy to make efforts against the Church as it was with a Romanian Government against a Romanian national.<\/p>\n\n\n\n So in 1990, when the Romanian Government changed, from that time on, the Episcopate responded to the needs of the Romanian people with financial assistance and other goods and things, and [it was] acknowledged that our Church, the Orthodox Church in America, at that time [collected] from the parishes in 1990-1991, over $40,000 in cash for that support through the Episcopate.\u00a0 I re-acknowledge that now.\u00a0 Thereafter, there were efforts on the part of some of our people here, clergy and lay people, to at least re-establish a benefit of concelebrating with the Romanian Patriarchal Diocese in North America, which had been established in 1952 by the Holy Synod of the Church of Romania, and from that time on we\u2019ve been separated, 60 years as it were.\u00a0 There was an effort to reconcile through the sharing of the sacraments, whereas before we didn\u2019t concelebrate.\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t anything written.\u00a0 It was just a fact.\u00a0 They were \u201cthem\u201d and we knew that there were differences of opinion.\u00a0 But shortly thereafter [post 1990] we wrote a letter to the [Romanian] Patriarch, at that time of blessed memory Teoctist, and asked: \u201cWho do you think we are and what does the Patriarchate consider about Archbishop Valerian and myself as successors to the first Bishop, Polycarp Morusca, who came [to America] in 1935 and died in Romania in 1958, estranged from his Diocese.\u201d\u00a0 The Patriarch responded: \u201cYes, we recognize your canonical status, we recognize that you have sacraments, we recognize everything about you.\u201d\u00a0 So, from that time on we concelebrated.\u00a0 We did some things together, but not all that much.\u00a0 As time went on and Archbishop Victorin [of the Patriarchal Diocese in America] fell asleep in the Lord, there was the absence of a Bishop, and then a new Bishop was elected, much younger than Archbishop Victorin.\u00a0 It appeared that with the [post 1990] immigration of many Romanian faithful and also clergy (today probably 95% of my clergy are from abroad) there was a realization that the Communist government was no more, that perhaps it was time to reconcile as brethren, and that came about in the sense of establishing a Committee of five from both dioceses to work together to see if there was a possibility that the Archdiocese of the Romanian Patriarchate would come into the Orthodox Church in America.\u00a0 There was also the invitation on the part of the [Patriarchal] Diocese to join with the Romanian Patriarchate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n On our part, we established that Committee and gave them our blessing, and with the consent of the Congress, to say yes, go forward and see what can be done to resolve this dis-union of 60 years, and the difficulties that are there of counter-parishes, counter-clergy, those things that are not from God – division.\u00a0 And so, our Committees worked together and separately, and they came to a point more recently, in the last 5 years, to say if there a possibility at all of reconciliation of the 2 Dioceses and how would it be done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n The response of the Romanian Archdiocese is that, inasmuch as the world at large, the Orthodox world as they would see it, does not recognize the autocephaly, the unique autocephaly of the Orthodox Church in America, they were not prepared to come into the Orthodox Church in America.\u00a0 So, on our part we said let\u2019s see if something can be done whereby both Dioceses can [still] come together, but in a unique way, unique to the American situation, [for] which as we all know, there is no canonical response; or at least some would say there is none, and some would say yes there is, and that would have been through the autocephaly of the Orthodox Church in America.\u00a0 So, we came to work out and really struggle with how this could be done, what would it entail and how would it look. What came out was a document, a proposal from the part of both the Archdiocese and the Episcopate to unite in some way that would be as \u201cautocephalic\u201d as could be, but without of course being autocephalous in the way that the Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Church became autocephalous.\u00a0 With the election of a new Patriarch, Patriarch Daniel of Romania, and with the effort of the Dialogue group as we called it, there was a consideration as how autonomous could this new entity be, without calling it autocephaly.\u00a0 And so there came up a term which was created, \u201cmaximal autonomy\u201d.\u00a0 Those of you who have [seen] it on our website can read the 20 point [document], which is not finalized.<\/p>\n\n\n\n The best I could say about it is that the relationship with the Romanian Patriarchal Church or the Church of Romania would be [limited and] if there was [such a new] Metropolia, the Metropolitan alone would commemorate the Patriarch of Romania and the Holy Chrism would come from there [Romania].\u00a0 [There] would be complete administrative autonomy in the election of all hierarchs and [complete administrative autonomy] in a local Synod which would have no relationship to the Synod in Romania.\u00a0 The Statutes would not be subject to the Holy Synod nor to the Church of Romania and this would be guaranteed by the Romanian Church [which would] not re-establish itself in North America.\u00a0 That\u2019s about where we are with that process.\u00a0 It hasn\u2019t been presented to the Holy Synod in Romania, although they are quite aware of it.\u00a0 It is still in the area of being hammered out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n At this time there are 4 members of the Dialogue Committee here; Fr. Lawrence Lazar, Fr. Catalin Mitescu, Fr. Remus Grama and Fr. Ian Pac-Urar.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think they came because I was going to get this question, but I am glad to see them here along with other members of my Diocese.\u00a0 The question is: \u201cHow do the [OCA] Bishops view this?\u201d\u00a0 That document of process, the Proposal, which has not yet been proposed officially, I presented it first to our Holy Synod this year, then to my Diocesan Council, and then to my Diocesan Assembly.\u00a0 So, I brought it to the Holy Synod first, this proposal, which some of the Hierarchs were very disappointed [with].\u00a0 Others didn\u2019t make a judgement per se, and others said \u201clet\u2019s see what happens in the end\u201d.\u00a0 His Beatitude, Herman said; \u201cwell, inasmuch as you haven\u2019t asked anything we are not going to say anything, because it\u2019s a proposal not yet made.\u201d\u00a0 Over the years, since 1990 I believe, or 1991-1992, whenever there was any kind of a breakthrough or development, or any kind of action that I thought the Holy Synod should know about [I reported it].\u00a0 In fact I was questioned more than one time by His Beatitude Theodosius and there should be in the archives of our Church a rather large volume of my reporting to the Holy Synod along the way. There was nothing hidden by me nor my Diocese. Over the years, there were articles and opinions printed in the \u2018Solia\u2019 newspaper to which you can all subscribe, that would help us greatly if you would.<\/p>\n\n\n\n And where does it stand today? It stands just [there]: a proposal yet not proposed, and so you are going to ask me: \u201cHow does this help Orthodox unity in North America or does it?\u201d\u00a0 I was pleased when the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia reconciled itself with the Church of Russia and I saw that you were pleased as well when yesterday we welcomed a representative of the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia in America and I thought: \u201cWell, maybe as the autocephalous church in North America, we should protest: Why are you re-establishing here?\u201d.\u00a0 And I thought: \u201cmaybe we should protest the presence of the Patriarchal Russian Churches still in North America, and maybe as a Holy Synod over the years, we ought to have protested the presence of the Greek Archdiocese, the Antiochian Archdiocese, the Serbian Diocese, and on and on and on, if we are the local autocephalous church with our own territory.\u201d\u00a0 However, I did read the Thomos which, in some of the articles that I\u2019ve written, I thought was a little bit weak, because I wanted unity in North America and we should speak out and bring everybody to the line. But the Thomos said that the Church of Russia, in granting the autonomy, the autocephaly, recognized that in time, those other jurisdictions, by the Grace of God, would come to recognize that they were welcome into the OCA, and that with time this would happen. And, so on the review, not a few times, of that document, the document of the Thomos, I thought, \u201cthat seemed to be the hope of the Church of Russia in 1970\u201d and it continues to be the hope of the Orthodox Church in America today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Is, or would the existence of a separate, Romanian Metropolia in North America be a rejection of the autocephaly of the Orthodox Church in America?\u00a0 Some would say yes, some would say, let\u2019s see what happens with it. What the proposal does, is that it brings together two groups of the same church, Mother Church, for us the Romanians, as it has for the Orthodox Church in America with the Church of Russia, which we continue to say is the Mother Church, which it is of the Orthodox Church in America. And so, what would happen in time.\u00a0 This Metropolia, according to the proposal, which again I say you can read on the website http:\/\/www.roea.org<\/a>, [which is still a] proposal in the making, may be, according to what we consider, an option for other jurisdictions as well. If the Mother Churches, other churches who have daughters here, are not prepared to give the blessing for them to come into to the Orthodox Church in America, perhaps, what will be in time, is a flowering of maximally autonomous Metropolias in North America working together, overcoming that tie, as was brought up a number of times here, with the foreign Churches or foreign Mother Churches. So I think that\u2019s about where our process is at this point. It\u2019s not a completed action. It may be that it won\u2019t be. It may be that what we are asking for, won\u2019t be accepted by the Romanian Church, although it appears to be [acceptable] at this point, and we don\u2019t perceive any kind of rejection of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Some of our people, clergy and lay people, both older generation and some recently coming here from abroad, would rather we don\u2019t have any connection at all with the Church of Romania, even if it is just naming the Metropolitan or the Patriarch and receiving Chrism.\u00a0 Others of my 95% clergy are fellow students with many of the Hierarchs. Their people here don\u2019t see a difference of why we\u2019re not joined together. It\u2019s not so much for them a rejection of the autocephaly as it is the idea of the unity of this group. Now, I\u2019m sure that many of you are thinking: \u201c\u2026 it\u2019s just an ethnic solution\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n I can\u2019t convince you otherwise, except to say perhaps that the Orthodox Church in America has its own substrata as a church from the Church of Russia. There are many converts to the church; there are many English, all English speaking American communities and so, for all of this, what we can say only is that, if there is something to come of it, and we don\u2019t know yet, we would then hope that the church, the Orthodox Church in America, will itself review and see if this a possible answer, a possible step toward that total answer of a totally administratively unified church in North America, with all jurisdictions together, serving not only this nation of the United States, but Canada and Mexico as well.\u00a0 Perhaps sometimes those of you who are part of the OCA don\u2019t pick up the nuances that we strangers do.\u00a0 On the presentation today it was the American flag.\u00a0 It had everything to do with the United States. I looked at Canada\u2019s Archbishop Seraphim and he just shrugged his shoulders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Over the years, we\u2019ve met at the Councils of the Church.\u00a0 Not one time was my Diocese invited to serve a Romanian Vespers, as though it\u2019s something non- Orthodox, nor to have a liturgy in Romanian, just so that you could see, or, an Albanian liturgy or Bulgarian.\u00a0 So, if the richness of the Church is to be recognized as Saint Innocent and Saint Tikhon established in their own will for the Church in North America, we hope that perhaps, you our brothers and sisters in Christ will recognize that this may be a possible benefit to all Orthodox Christians in North America.\u00a0 And when the time comes to present to the Holy Synod a finished proposal, before we present it to the Church of Romania, I would hope that the Fathers of the Holy Synod, which have over the years listened to me and given me guidance, will also weigh very carefully, what is good for the Church as a whole.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Thank You.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"